Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!leah!rpi!rpi.edu!kudla From: kudla@pawl.rpi.edu (Robert J. Kudla) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: WB1.3.2 Message-ID: <7056@rpi.edu> Date: 4 Sep 89 07:33:21 GMT References: <1989Sep3.015931.9016@csusac.csus.edu> <19679@usc.edu> <19682@usc.edu> Sender: usenet@rpi.edu Distribution: usa Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 94 In-reply-to: papa@pollux.usc.edu's message of 4 Sep 89 01:28:14 GMT In article <19682@usc.edu> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: it is closely resembling Apple's software licenses. I'll say. Is this a joke or something? I find it really funny and a waste of bytes.... PLEASE CAREFULLY READ THE FOLLOWING TERMS AND CONDITIONS BEFORE USING THIS SOFTWARE. ANY DOWNLOADING, REPRODUCTION, COPYING OR OTHER USE OF THE SOFTWARE WILL CONSTITUTE ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH THEM YOU SHOULD DISCONTINUE THIS TRANSMISSION. What a strange sort of shrink-wrap license.... 1. Use the Software only on a single AMIGA computer. You must obtain a supplementary license from Commodore before using the Software in connection with any other use; Pretty funny, considering a virtually infinite number of copies may be downloaded from wherever it's posted.... 2. Download the Software only on media that is compatible with the AMIGA; This is just plain stupid. I'll most likely download this the same way I download everything else, if it's posted to the net- ftp it to an MS-DOS 3" floppy and use PcPatch to dump it to my local system. Of course, with PcPatch, MS-DOS disks could theoretically be considered Amiga-compatible. They're certainly Amiga-readable/writable; with Crossdos they are certainly Amiga-compatible. 3. Make one copy of the Software in any machine readable form for backup purposes. The Software is protected by United States copyright law. You must reproduce the Commodore copyright notice on any copy of the Software; and What if I download it fifty times onto different disks? Download it by proxy for my friends without access to the Net orr BBSes? 4. Configure the Software for your own use by adding or removing fonts, desk accessories and/or device drivers. Thank you, Massuh, you are too kind. the public without restriction. YOU SPECIFICALLY AGREE NOT TO DECOMPILE, MODIFY, NETWORK, RENT, LEASE, LOAN, SELL OR DISTRIBUTE UNAUTHORIZED REPRODUCTION OF A COPY OF THE SOFTWARE OR UNAUTHORIZED TRANSFER OF ANY COPY OF THE SOFTWARE MAY SUBJECT YOU TO A LAWSUIT FOR DAMAGES, INJUNCTIVE RELIEF, AND ATTORNEY'S FEES. That's nice. It's also been circumvented before quite legally. As for the distribution bit, I'm not going to say a word. [You better not use it for the following uses:] (i) designing, developing, fabricating or testing nuclear weapons or nuclear explosive devices; [etc... no nukes!!] While I agree wholeheartedly with this anti-nuke stance, my question is: why? This sounds like some random longhaired highschool kid like I was a few years ago wrote it. governmental entity and (d) in all respects is proprietary data belonging solely to Commodore. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but to think you somehow can control it is even more dangerous, or at least foolish. They might legally own it, but I'm sorry, there are just hundreds of people in the government and out who'll probably dissassemble it to their heart's content. Any attempt to network, rent lease, or sublicense the Software or to transfer any of the rights, duties or obligations under this Agreement is void. Yeah, right. Does this make it impossible for me to take my 18 Novell-networked A2500's and put these 15 or 20 measly files on the server? If Commodore starts putting stuff like this on all their software, I'll probably chuck my 500 and get a 386 clone....(ick!) I'm sure I can find lots of non-mersh software updates without such silliness..... Jeesh. Between this and the brilliant idea of starting heavy advertising before 1.4 and the 3000 are ready with emphasis on the Commodore name...... I've just gotta wonder.... -- Robert Jude Kudla Pi-Rho America \\ /// Sick feeling, sick reasoning, 2346 15th St. \\ /// sick challenging, la la la la..... Troy, NY 12180 /X\ \\\/// keywords: mike oldfield yes u2 r.e.m. new order (518)271-8624 // \\ \XX/ steely dan f.g.t.h. kate bush .....and even Rush