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From: dbk@teroach.UUCP (Dave Kinzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: WB 1.3.2
Summary: Out-of-control poster earns warning
Keywords: legit?
Message-ID: <11608@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com>
Date: 7 Sep 89 05:32:38 GMT
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Reply-To: dbk@teroach.UUCP (Dave Kinzer)
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This started out as a mail response, but I think it is time to revisit
this subject in general.  The original poster is Phil Staub.

In article <6068@tekigm2.MEN.TEK.COM> you write:
>
>I had more I wanted to say, but I'm so mad right now I can't remember what
>it was. 8-(
>

Time for you to go back and read the netequitte posting.  There is no
excuse to post while you are angry.

   The people at Commodore provide support on this network out of the
goodness of their heart.  They are NOT required to do so in any fashion.
Not legally, not morally, and (most importantly) not as a part of their
job description.  What you get here is not an official support channel
of Commodore.  They exist elsewhere, and include writing letters.

   All it takes for Andy, Dave, Randy, Caraloyn, or the rest of the crew
(sorry, brain fade here) to discontinue this service to us is to type one
character.  Think about it, 'U' - unsubscribe, your support just ended.

   What you get here is not exactly free.  It may not cost you any out of
pocket dollars (though someone is paying hundreds if not thousands of
dollars) the price you pay is to be respectful, considerate, and
understanding.  If you are not willing to do that, you may lose this
for not only yourself, but everyone else.  In that case, the price you
pay will be ignorance.

   You have a great resource here.  Free, direct access to the people in
the know.  You don't get that from Apple or IBM, and that says something.
Don't screw it up for everybody.

*****

Now, as an example of how you could post constructively on the licence
subject, take this as an example:

   The Commodore licencing agreement specifically prohibits running the
software on a machine that is not an Amiga.  Didn't IBM lose this battle
to Amdahl some time ago?  Does this mean that parts of this licence are
not applicable in the United States?

Was that so hard?  A questioning response *likely* to produce more
information, and not piss anybody off.



            * * *   Imminent use of deathnet predicted.   * * *             //
Dave Kinzer  (602)897-3085  asuvax!mcdphx!teroach!dbk  Opinions are mine. \X/

   I would also like to take this opportunity to thank everybody at Commodore
as well as the other knowledgable persons (Dale, Rob, Kodiak, Jim and others
who will probably never forgive me for not mentioning them) for tolerating
the noise of this newsgroup and still supporting those in need.  I also
thank (is this getting like a movie credit yet?) those third party vendors
(Perry comes to mind) that offer support through this channel.  
Thanks thanks thanks.  It isn't said often enough.



For those of you who don't agree with me, email me your opinion.  It will
keep the group free for discussion of things Amiga.