Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cwjcc!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Ehman Hard Drives Message-ID: <1989Sep3.220747.3079@NCoast.ORG> Date: 3 Sep 89 22:07:47 GMT References: <1590@lzfme.att.com> <13884@shamash.cdc.com> <1989Aug29.163358.11058@agate.uucp> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Followup-To: comp.sys.mac Organization: North Coast Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, OH Lines: 45 As quoted from <1989Aug29.163358.11058@agate.uucp> by lauac@mead.qal.berkeley.edu (Alexander Lau): +--------------- | In article <13884@shamash.cdc.com> pwp@shamash.UUCP (Pete Poorman) writes: | >The drive recently developed a problem where it would intermittently | >refuse to power-up. (No spin, no noise. No NUTHIN!) He sent it the Ehman, > (...) | >Upon calling Ehman again, they offered to send another BRAND NEW drive in | >exchange! | | I fail to understand why, when someone lauds Ehman for "fixing their | problem," they don't instead lambast Ehman for not giving them a | working drive in the first place. +--------------- Because some "intermittent" failures can be a real pain in the *ss to detect under testing conditions. Example: a drive which fails only when it's been sitting around for a week or so. It is possible, if the drive is shipped to the service center via UPS Blue or a faster service, for the service techs to get the drive and put it through its paces *before* the non-failure period expires. However, if it sits around for awhile after being tested and then is shipped via a slower service, it could arrive outside the failure period and not work. Another example: I work for a company which sells and services (non-Apple, sorry... on the other hand, we aren't really in the same market) computers. Recently, one of our clients brought in a system which was having intermittent boot problems; but it never failed when we tested it. It turned out to be a glitch in the power supply, which was an auto-switching model (120V/240V). Some voltage spikes would cause the supply to switch, temporarily interrupting power and causing a crash. Unfortunately, our power was too clean even without a voltage regulator to cause this to happen during testing, so we had no way to find it ourselves. This kind of scenario is why a company like Ehman which will give out a replacement when an intermittent failure shows up but can't be found in (most) testing is better than one that won't. Such things happen; companies should have a policy which deals with them. ++Brandon (disclaimer: I work in the software end of the business, so I may be off base) -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@NCoast.ORG uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu "Why do trans-atlantic transfers take so long?" "Electrons don't swim very fast." -john@minster.york.ac.uk and whh@PacBell.COM