Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!ukc!icdoc!bilpin!jason From: jason@bilpin.UUCP (Jason Grimblood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Theldrow, Excel & Lotus Summary: Just Theldrow, actually. Message-ID: <1609@bilpin.UUCP> Date: 6 Sep 89 10:57:03 GMT References: <21922@louie.udel.EDU> Organization: SRL, London, England Lines: 55 #{ v_mac.2 } The following posting includes some assistance with the dropping bug, and inevitably hints at a fragment of an important part of the game solution, although not in a way which would spoil the game. However, if you don't even want to see this obtuse hint, don't read past the ^L. Firstly, I managed to complete Theldrow on a Mac SE/30, so it is possible on 680?0 machines. I only encountered the combat bug twice, so it wasn't a major problem for me. I wasn't able to determine the specific conditions which produced it, so I can only suggest using Cmnd-Q regularly, followed by Cmnd-D, to keep a saved copy of your character file. I found the dropping bug much more of a nuisance, which usually produces a bomb if you discard something carelessly. The rule is : Drop Things Only Where You Found Them although even this isn't 100% reliable. If you want to get rid of something elsewhere, put it in the Magic Chest instead. There is still a problem with this, which I can only explain by revealing a small something about the game solution. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GAME COMPLETION HINT FOLLOWS * * * * * * * * * * * * * * The dropping bug is an especial irritation, because completion of the game specifically requires you to drop certain objects at places other than where you find them. By painful trial and error I formulated the following procedure to get around the error. x quit and save your character file, then restart o face towards the centre (once you have found the relevant location, you will know what I mean by that) o click on the object to be dropped, to bring up its associated description o press RETURN to acknowledge the message, then drag the object to the centre of the location display x cross your fingers, close your eyes, touch wood, invoke your favourite deity o take your quivering, sweat soaked finger off the mouse button to drop the selected object x open one eye v-e-r-y slowly while saying "There is no bomb. There is no bomb. There is no bomb." (You may dispense with the stages marked 'x'.) I found this procedure to work about four times out of five, whereas simply dropping an object on arriving at the required location would bomb every time. Don't ask me to explain it. -- {JasonG : Hatfield, England} Trust me, I'm a doctor.