Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!XEROX.COM!"Frank_Shih.mvenvos" From: "Frank_Shih.mvenvos"@XEROX.COM Newsgroups: comp.sys.xerox Subject: Re: AAAI-89 summary (long) [Really: Multiuser Lisp machine?] Message-ID: <890909-055933-2675@Xerox> Date: 8 Sep 89 00:28:32 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 18 I read a short paper at their booth (I didn't keep the paper, so I'm doing this from memory), it described a microcoded machine which implements a Lisp interpreter (!?), directly. I don't recall the technology underlying the hardware as being unusual (I seem to recall something like 2 micron CMOS). It included a very few benchmarks comparing other (compiled) Lisp implementations (in particular, D-machines), versus their microcoded interpreter. I recall some of their benchmarks were "relatively good" (some were better than compiled Interlisp-on-D-machine). Since the paper didn't include compiled benchmarks for their machine, could it be that there IS NO low-level instruction set to compile into? So assuming the paper is describing the ELIS, it seems to be a rather unusual lisp machine. I seem to recall pricing in the very low 10s of thousands.... -Frank.