Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!luth!sunic!mcsun!unido!pcsbst!meepmeep!jkh From: jkh@meepmeep.pcs.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: Why does every xterm create an entry in /usr/utmp? Message-ID: <1053@pcsbst.UUCP> Date: 8 Sep 89 11:20:53 GMT References: <3472@blake.acs.washington.edu> <8909051759.AA11810@gaak.LCS.MIT.EDU> <16851@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <2422@auspex.auspex.com> Sender: news@pcsbst.UUCP Reply-To: jkh@meepmeep.UUCP (Jordan K. Hubbard) Organization: PCS Computer Systeme, GmbH Lines: 29 In article <2422@auspex.auspex.com> guy@auspex.auspex.com (Guy Harris) writes: > > >Write and talk, for example, require this. Without a utmp entry, users > >cannot write me on a given xterm (usually scribbling on my login terminal > >instead, which is nasty since it's the "glass tty" underlying my X session). > >That's a botch; output to the "glass tty" underlying your session should >be directed to some other window - under SunOS, you can do so with the >"-C" flag to "xterm" (or "shelltool" or "cmdtool" under SunView), and I Yes, I know. Unfortunately, our vendor is US and my requests for TIOCCONS have been put on the back burner by our OS group. >I think the difference people perceive may be that they view "rlogin" as >really logging you in to a particular machine, while "xterm" is just >popping another window up on top of an existing login session. Yes, that was my point. While having multiple xterms in front of you may "feel" different than having N rlogins, it's not really that much different once you factor the demands made by unix's terminal "philosophy". Having multiple xterms comprise one logical "terminal session" might be interesting from a UI point of view, but it would be confusing. Jordan ----- PCS Computer Systeme GmbH, Munich, West Germany UUCP: pyramid!pcsbst!jkh jkh@meepmeep.pcs.com EUNET: unido!pcsbst!jkh ARPA: jkh@violet.berkeley.edu or hubbard@decwrl.dec.com