Xref: utzoo soc.motss:19662 talk.rumors:3101 news.admin:6727 news.misc:3549 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!novavax!twwells!bill From: bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.rumors,news.admin,news.misc Subject: Re: USENET site admin responsibilities (was: Re: Censorship is for Wusses) Message-ID: <1989Sep4.003257.7370@twwells.com> Date: 4 Sep 89 00:32:57 GMT References: <3659@uwovax.uwo.ca> <13316@nsc.nsc.com> <3988@buengc.BU.EDU> <1989Sep3.043558.9447@xenitec.uucp> <4030@buengc.BU.EDU> <2860@splut.conmicro.com> Followup-To: alt.flame Organization: None, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Lines: 34 In article <2860@splut.conmicro.com> jay@splut.conmicro.com (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard) writes: : In article <4030@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes: : 264 lines of argument based on an invalid assumption: that there is such : a thing as freedom of speech on the net. : : Sorry, Blair, but it doesn't work that way in the real world. Them that : has the gold makes the rules. There is no more freedom of speech on any : site than those who own the system allow. If you think that there should : be freedom of speech on my site, send me $5000, and I'll sell you the : computer; otherwise, stop trying to tell me how to run it. Agreed. But the going price for my system is $10,000. And you have to house it yourself. Why mention price? To point out that the whole thing hinges on the fact that the net exists by the grace of those property owners who have decided to contribute their hardware, time, and money to the net. And who, therefore, have the right to determine how that hardware, time, and money will be used. Or to withdraw their contribution from the net. If it were ever to occur that, solely because I'm on the net, I could be made to propagate things that I would choose not to, I would drop out of the net. Instantly. This is *my* computer. Paid for by *my* effort. You try to *tell* me how I may use it and I'll tell you where to go. You try to *make* me use it as you will and I'll treat you like the thug you are. Followups have been directed to alt.flame. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh | sunvice } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com