Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdahl!amdcad!military From: ssc-vax!wanttaja@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ronald J Wanttaja) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Dune Buggies Message-ID: <27087@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 2 Sep 89 07:29:23 GMT References: <27043@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: cdr@amdcad.AMD.COM Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA Lines: 24 Approved: military@amdcad.amd.com From: ssc-vax!wanttaja@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ronald J Wanttaja) A good friend of mine was in the 9th Inf. Div. at Ft. Lewis... commonly known as the "Toys R Us Brigade." Their job was to test screwball, er, unconventional hardware and tactics such as this. His first assignment was with a company of off-the-shelf Dodge pickup trucks armed with TOW launchers and auto-40mm grenade launchers. After that, he commanded a small unit of thhe Dune Buggies, armed similarly. Their main job was antitank... and the buggies did fairly well, from a blunt theoretical point of view. On exercises, they lost three VWs for every tank killed... a good cost ratio, but rather hard on crews. It was definitely fun to roar about in them, but no one really wanted to take them into combat. If I remember right, reliability was poor. This was especially true of the Dodge trucks... they may be all right for civilian use, but civilians don't play "Rat Patrol" for weeks on end. The trucks and the VWs were eventually replaced by Humvees. Ron Wanttaja (ssc-vax!wanttaja)