Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!sun-barr!newstop!sun!amdahl!amdcad!military From: broman@schroeder.nosc.mil (Vincent Broman) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Measuring range with passive sonar Message-ID: <27140@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 7 Sep 89 07:18:30 GMT References: <27129@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: cdr@amdcad.AMD.COM Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego Lines: 30 Approved: military@amdcad.amd.com From: broman@schroeder.nosc.mil (Vincent Broman) Can the frequency dependence of sound speed in water enable passive sonar ranging? I doubt it. It would be difficult to compute a time-difference from signals found in two different frequency bins, because you don't know that the two signals were identical and simultaneous when they were emitted. Sound speed depends on many factors, e.g. temperature, pressure, and salinity. The sound energy measured in one incoming beam of sound may be a mixture of several signals which travelled over different propagation paths, possibly originating from several sources. Ocean acoustics deals with some very dirty data. If one has prior intelligence on the strength of an emitted signal, then the transmission loss in signal power might be compared to a model of the attenuation and refraction expected in the current ocean environment to produce information on the length of the signal propagation path. The resulting probability density on range can be strange and multimodal. If your array of hydrophones is in the near field of the sound source, one may estimate range from the curvature of the sound wave fronts. Generally, such towed array passive ranging methods produce usable results only under limited conditions. Vincent Broman, code 632, Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92152, USA Phone: +1 619 553 1641 Internet: broman@nosc.mil Uucp: sdcsvax!nosc!broman