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From: palowoda@megatest.UUCP (Bob Palowoda)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans
Subject: Re: ELS II/non-ded ctrl-alt-del at server/workstation
Message-ID: <8195@megatest.UUCP>
Date: 20 Sep 89 10:09:37 GMT
References: <2762@orion.cf.uci.edu>
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Organization: Megatest Corporation, San Jose, Ca
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From article <2762@orion.cf.uci.edu>, by mrichey@orion.cf.uci.edu (Mike Richey):
> In article <8111@megatest.UUCP> palowoda@megatest.UUCP (Bob Palowoda) writes:
> 
>>  Why does Novell sell a non-dedicated mode and everyone complains it
>>  works so poorly and pawns it off on bad marketing hype. I suspect 
> Novell prouced Non dedicated because their marketing department saw an 
> avenue for sales. It was marketing. Apparently Novell did not see the 
> problems that may have and have come up.

 Oh no! The case of the bozo's in the marketing did it again.


> 
>>  to a unix network I have had 98% uptime. I gave up on novell to
>>  many times reformating disk because some software package was not
>>  "net aware" and trashed the file system.
> 
> I've never had Netware trash because a program was not Netware aware. But this
> is my experience. I managed four Novel file servers at my previous place of 
> employment. I had 100% uptime on three servers for fourteen months til I left.
> (read, NO DOWN time, except for standard maintenace)

  I calculate my maintenace as downtime. I had a group of software
engineers developing software and off coarse their would bound to
be situations in dos where thier code caused the problem. I not going
to say UNIX is perfect either but it seems to offer alot more protection
offered by the kernel. Heck by the time Novel finishs up their 386 
specific version, gets all the drivers and most of the bugs worked out
it's going to resemble a UNIX file server anyway. In the end the users
are going to pay through the nose.  At least Novel is doing something
right offering a soulution to connect unix hosts. The best part of the
whole saga is yet to be seen when more users get interconnected 
between Novel's and they talk about the prices of the filesever systems.
I know you can't compare apples and oranges, but it's fruit and who
ever paid ten dollars for an apple didn't shop very well. 

> 
> The fourth was a different story. This wasn't the fault of Netware, but hard-
> ware faults. I'm not advocating that Netware is flawless. Like I said, this is
> my experience.

 Yeah I seen this, intermittent bad spots on disks. I still think Novel's
 surface scan is not as robust as unix's. 

 What really would be interesting to see a article about a PC-NFS
 client/server -> PC-NFS client/server comprared to a
 Novel nondedicated/client/sever -> Novell nondedicated/client/server.
 
---Bob


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