Xref: utzoo comp.lang.postscript:2920 comp.fonts:752 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!bellcore!buzz!nrh From: nrh@buzz.bellcore.com (Nathaniel Howard) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.fonts Subject: Apple/Adobe font war heats up Message-ID: <17674@bellcore.bellcore.com> Date: 21 Sep 89 13:58:59 GMT Sender: news@bellcore.bellcore.com Reply-To: nrh@buzz.bellcore.com (Nat Howard) Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown NJ Lines: 83 Someone just sent me the AP news article that follows below. Unfortunately, the article doesn't mention just what the "valuable technical information" is -- the most obvious guess is a description of "hints", but that's just my guess. My suggestion is that folks following-up avoid guessing: I agree, it could be anything from revealing the already-revealed "eexec" decryption method to the text of the V.50 PostScript interpreter and the Stone fonts. I'm guessing -- but only to forestall other guesses. Anyhow, I'm sure this is a "hot button" over at Adobe, so let's not all of us jump on Glenn demanding to know what the information is (if he can tell us, I'm sure he will), but perhaps someone attended the Seybold conference? I've directed followups to comp.lang.postscript ^PM-Adobe-Apple, Bjt,0574< ^Adobe Strikes Back in Battle Over Computer Typefaces< ^By PETER COY= ^AP Business Writer= NEW YORK (AP) _ Adobe Systems Inc. is hoping to keep Apple Computer Inc. from stealing its thunder in a battle over typefaces that has the computer industry's biggest names choosing sides. Adobe said Wednesday it would take the unusual step of making public some valuable technical information about the way its PostScript software creates letters, numbers and other figures on a page. That step, while helping Adobe's competitors, should confirm the Adobe system as an industry standard and deal a blow to a joint effort by Apple and Microsoft Corp. to create a new standard, analysts said. The seemingly obscure battle will affect the course of desktop publishing, which makes it possible for personal computer owners to create professional-looking documents and publications using special software and laser printers. John Warnock, Adobe's chairman, chief executive and co-founder, announced the decision to publish PostScript specifications in an emotional speech at a conference in San Francisco. He said he feared Apple's unspecific plans for new software amounted to ``vaporware'' that could jeopardize a valuable existing standard. Steve Jobs of Next Inc. lined up on the side of Adobe at the Seybold Computer Publishing Conference and Exposition, while Bill Gates of Microsoft sided with Apple. ``This is like a soap opera. It's melodrama at its best,'' Bill McGlynn, marketing manager for the Boise printer division of Hewlett-Packard Co., said in a telephone interview from the conference. An agreed-upon standard makes things easier for makers of computers, printers and new typefaces as well as computer users. With Adobe's announcement, companies that already use PostScript may decide to stick with it instead of spending their efforts on the Apple-Microsoft plans, analysts said. ``A lot of people think this is a very good move,'' said David Nelson, an analyst at Shearson Lehman Hutton Inc. He said customers attending the conference ``overwhelmingly'' indicated in a show of hands that they would stick with Adobe. Adobe's stock was hurt Wednesday by the Apple-Microsoft combination, which came after the close of trading Tuesday, but helped by Adobe's counterploy. It closed the day off 37{ cents at $19.75 in over-the-counter trading. Adobe, of Mountain View, Calif., rose rapidly in recent years to dominate the software that goes into laser printers and controls their output. Apple, which had been Adobe's biggest customer, signalled its intention to go its own way earlier this year when it sold its 16 percent stake in Adobe. Apple and Microsoft, which are battling each other in an unrelated copyright suit, set aside their differences Tuesday to announce they would swap technology on advanced printer fonts. The plan is for Macintosh computers and IBM-type computers using Microsoft base software to have identical font capabilities. Gates, the Microsoft chairman, said the plan is to improve upon PostScript. But he acknowledged that the improvements could render the two sets of software incompatible. Jonathan Seybold, the host of the San Francisco conference, predicted that the first software from that alliance would not be shipped before 1991. Adobe's president, Charles Geschke, said in a phone interview that the company had planned to publish the PostScript specifications within a matter of months anyway but speeded up its plans in hopes of keeping the industry standard from splitting. AP-NR-09-21-89 0214EDT<