Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!AHWAHNEE.STANFORD.EDU!dcrocker From: dcrocker@AHWAHNEE.STANFORD.EDU (Dave Crocker) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: RE: DOD ---> CMOT VERSUS SNMP Message-ID: <8909172333.AA21455@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 17 Sep 89 21:52:09 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 29 Just to add to the confusion, I should note that I am beginning to hear increasing rumblings that some vendors might wish to suggest moving directly to full CMIP over TCP, rather than using the constrained CMOT. While I don't have anything more substantial than citing 'rumor', in terms of hearing about vendor plans, the technical distinction is significant: CMOT has two differences from CMIP. The first is that it operates over TCP, rather than OSI transport. This turns out to be relatively uninteresting, from the standpoint of management protocol discussions and it is NOT the change that I am hearing rumored. Much more importantly, CMOT specified a subset of the ASN.1 data types and, I believe, a subset of the management protocol operations from 'pure' CMIP (draft international standard or slightly before). Moving to "full" CMIP, even over TCP, therefore involves some amount of enhancement to the application protocol. The original subsetting was done out of the usual desire to streamline the initial implementation effort, for the demo that was schedules and accomplished at last year's Interop. Privately (i.e., not burdening the tcp-ip list with the traffic) I would be interested in hearing about vendor feelings on this topic. Dave Crocker Digital Equipment Corp.