Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!dell!mikeh From: mikeh@dell.dell.com (Mike Hammel) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Product Documentation (Was: Are users stupid?) Message-ID: <3230@dell.dell.com> Date: 12 Sep 89 22:40:50 GMT References: <1596@mks.UUCP> Reply-To: mikeh@dell.UUCP (Mike Hammel, ) Organization: Dell Computer Corp., Austin, Tx. Lines: 24 In article <1596@mks.UUCP> jim@mks.UUCP (Jim Gardner) writes: [...] - the door. This means that the documentation must be prepared - before the software has been finished (before the testing is --------------------- - finished at any rate). There have been many times that I have -------- Don't I know it. In previous work I developed test plans and testcase suites from internal documentation, ie the stuff the designers wrote themselves. Lately I work more with external documentation, manuals and such that come from outside vendors. In both cases I've had to work with incomplete and incorrect information. Try determining how to test compatibility or functionality when the folks who designed the thing don't know what its supposed to do! The "dream" scenario for me would be to have design documents finished before the product gets to the test group, or in the case of outside vendor materials, have user documents that are up to date with the version/release that is received for testing. Unfortunately this seldom happens (at least for me). No wonder it seems like the test group is always holding up the product. :-) (We test engineers know better, though.) Michael J. Hammel Dell Computer Corp.