Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!microsoft!w-darekm From: w-darekm@microsoft.UUCP (Darek Mihocka) Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: TT versus Mac IIcx Message-ID: <7810@microsoft.UUCP> Date: 22 Sep 89 17:15:48 GMT References: <11892@boulder.Colorado.EDU> Reply-To: w-darekm@microsoft.UUCP (Darek Mihocka) Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 59 In article <11892@boulder.Colorado.EDU> solomon@boulder.Colorado.EDU (SOLOMON AMY BETH) writes: >In article cmm1@CUNIXA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Christopher M Mauritz) writes: >>I don't understand what all the hoopla about the somewhat limited >>capabilities of the TT is all about? Here in NYC, you can buy a brand >>new Mac IIcx for $2999. If you want a 68030 environment . . . > > >Yeah, I bet that this system comes with a wopping 1 Meg and does not >include: > 1) A hard disk > 2) A keyboard > 3) A monitor > 4) A/UX Since when is 1 megabyte considered "wopping"? That's pretty standard on most Mac's and PC's these days, and most 286 and 386 machines have at least 2 meg so they can boot up >I would highly suggest that you look into how much Apple charges for these >little goodies before you buy. I think that you will find that a Mac which >is equivalent to the TT ( if it ever gets here ) will easily cost you >over $5000. Gimme a break! The days of being able to claim Power Without the Price are over. If you're gonna buy a 68030 machine, then what difference does it make if you spend $3000 or $5000. It's safe to say you're not buying it for video games. Most likely it will be used for development or in some business application. Perhaps CD-ROM. Or signal processing. In any case, it's some application that is being used to generate income. A super cheap TT bundled with a hard disk, a keyboard (must we ask for a keyboard???), and monitor is USELESS to you and will not generate any INCOME if it doesn't exist! Atari has already proven many times that their press releases and announcements are fiction, therefore any information you may have about the price and features of the TT can't be taken seriously. We are now one week away from October, and I have still not seen any activity to indicate that Sam Tramiel will honor his promise to ship everything in October. The business world simply does not work the same way as the consumer market. They do not wait until Christmas to buy their computers. The Apple IIx has a 68030, has CD-ROM players, has multitasking, has excellent sound and graphics, has excellent business software, and best of all you can buy one, today. And it's almost a sure thing now that Apple will be the first to release a portable. I wouldn't be surprised if Atari starts coming up with excuses to cancel some of these new machine. The only people that are going to buy them are hard core Atari loyalists like yourself. And all that will accomplish is make the Tramiels richer, and you'll end up with inferior computer equipment. Suit yourself. My next computer is definately not going to be an Atari. If I were Jack Tramiel, I'd buy Nintendo stock to keep from losing everything. - Darek ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Darek Mihocka ST Xformer II CIS: (out of order) Box 2624, Station B Quick Utilities GEnie: DAREKM Kitchener, Ontario MegaBlit SSG SPX DELPHI: DAREKM N2H 6N2 Shareware, not Vaporware BIX: darekm Canada Blitter chip sucks! CheapNet: ...!uw-beaver!microsoft!w-darekm (519)-747-0386 A mind is a terrible thing to waste, so JUST SAY NO TO TOS. Opinions expressed are my own and not those of anyone not named Darek Mihocka. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------