Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!udel!eplrx7!leipold From: leipold@eplrx7.UUCP (leipold) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: I need a good programming environment! Message-ID: <801@eplrx7.UUCP> Date: 19 Sep 89 12:34:59 GMT References: <89258.143612HLM6@PSUVM.BITNET> <430041@hp-ses.SDE.HP.COM> Reply-To: leipold@eplrx7.UUCP (Walt Leipold) Organization: E.I. du Pont de Nemours & Co. Lines: 20 Have you tried MacScheme+Toolsmith (from Lightship Software)? I've been using it for over a year, and it's real nice. It's a little slow for heavy-duty number crunching, but I've used it to prototype some algorithms for later translation to C, Pascal, and (gasp) FORTRAN. It can generate reasonably compact standalone applications. And it even supports multiple concurrent Scheme tasks, so you can experiment with parallel programming. Scheme is a great language; it's only object-oriented when you want it to be. Also, the best introductory computer science text in the known universe (Abelson & Sussman, "The Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs") is in Scheme. And yes, I have Digitalk's Smalltalk/V too; it is a lot of fun, but more confusing to us old folks than "traditional" object-oriented programming in languages like Scheme, Pascal, and C. Disclaimer: I have no connection with Lightship Software whatsoever (except that they're a _real_ friendly bunch of people to deal with). -- "As long as you've lit one candle, Walt Leipold you're allowed to curse the darkness." (leipolw%esvax@dupont.com) --