Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!shadooby!oxtrap!teemc!ka3ovk!ki4pv!cdin-1!icdi10!fr From: fr@icdi10.UUCP (Fred Rump from home) Newsgroups: comp.unix.i386 Subject: Re: ESDI controller recommendations Message-ID: <415@icdi10.UUCP> Date: 12 Sep 89 08:04:41 GMT References: <121@mdi386.UUCP> <1474@wb3ffv.ampr.org> <4843@looking.on.ca> <1989Sep4.024559.13279@ddsw1.MCS.COM> <71@calcite.UUCP> Reply-To: fr@icdi10.UUCP (Fred Rump from home) Organization: normally @ Compudata Inc. Phila PA Lines: 36 In article <71@calcite.UUCP> vjs@calcite.UUCP (Vernon Schryver) writes: >In article <1989Sep4.024559.13279@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: >> > ...[a loud rebuttal]... >> Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, !ddsw1!karl) > >I got Mr. Denninger's dander up. Be careful or thick skinned when not >complimenting what people sell. He is obviously wrong and inconsistent on >several technical issues, but such technicalities are not germane to what >he is saying. Now wait a minute! There are many of us out here who's gander is up. Don't just blame Karl for accepting the world as it is today. Your points are fine but they simply aren't relevant to what the market has to offer. Sure some fine day there'll be better kernels and better everything else too. And the discussion will continue. In the meantime some of us need to make a living with what the best technology offers our customers NOW. We offen call this 'bang for the buck'. Sure, a Sequent with all it's 386's will do all your fancy footwork. Prime has announced a 1000 user 386 system too. Dynix is a tuned UNIX for just such an environment, but we start at a price point we can't even reach with the products Karl is selling. So why are we even discussing it? It's such a limited market in that $500,000 and up world that you can spend a lot of time tuning one system while we've installed another 1000 Unix systems. Ok, so they'll only run 30 users. But that's all we and our customers need. End of story. Fred Rump -- This is my house. My castle will get started right after I finish with news. 26 Warren St. uucp: ...{bpa dsinc uunet}!cdin-1!icdi10!fr Beverly, NJ 08010 domain: fred@cdin-1.uu.net or icdi10!fr@cdin-1.uu.net 609-386-6846 "Freude... Alle Menschen werden Brueder..." - Schiller