Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!usc!bloom-beacon!think!barmar From: barmar@think.COM (Barry Margolin) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: A way to monitor your files Message-ID: <29348@news.Think.COM> Date: 12 Sep 89 19:17:17 GMT References: <547@chem.ucsd.EDU> <1140@virtech.UUCP> <29114@news.Think.COM> <1142@virtech.UUCP> <11022@smoke.BRL.MIL> <4113@buengc.BU.EDU> <11035@smoke.BRL.MIL> <4125@buengc.BU.EDU> Sender: news@Think.COM Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA Lines: 30 In article <4125@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes: >I recall mentioning that at the start of this thread I wasn't a superuser >and didn't even read it. Thanks for the recap. I am now a superuser, >and am interested in all forms of security. Here's most of the text of the original posting: I am really new to unix and was just wondering if there is a program/file or something ( for lack of better word) that allows me to know when and by whom my files have been accessed. I have tried to change the mode of the files to limit access to only myself ( at least certain personal files) but this measure seems utterly useless with superusers. Encrypting is out of the question. >There is _no_ way to keep the SU from looking in your files. That >is a feature, not a bug. >I tell users that if they really want me not to see their stuff >they should use encrypt(1) or move it off the machine. Note that he didn't actually ask for a way to prevent the SU from reading his file; he'd managed to discover on his own that it is impossible. He asked for a way to keep track of their snooping. The answer is that it is impossible in traditional Unix, and may be possible to a limited extent in "secure" Unix systems. Barry Margolin Thinking Machines Corp. barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar