Xref: utzoo news.groups:12380 news.misc:3620 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cwjcc!gatech!bbn!bbn.com!cosell From: cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.misc Subject: Re: Report Card on the success of the group creation guidelines Message-ID: <45814@bbn.COM> Date: 20 Sep 89 12:15:44 GMT References: <17735@looking.on.ca> <1989Sep20.060201.4473@rpi.edu> Sender: news@bbn.COM Reply-To: cosell@BBN.COM (Bernie Cosell) Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 26 In article <1989Sep20.060201.4473@rpi.edu> tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) writes: }None of the alternate hierarchies should even be included in Brad's }report card, since you claim it addresses the group creation }guidelines. I disagree. The hypothesis under consideration is whether the guidelines we follow in fact have any merit: if they act as a filter to improve the quality, popularity, etc, of the groups that succeed in running their gauntlet. The problem with testing this hypothesis SOLELY on the main-hierarchy newsgroups is that there is no way to measure the *effect* of the guidelines. However, if we contrast the mainline hierarchy against, say, the alt hierarchy, we can SEE if the guidelines make any apparent difference. I agree that one should be careful about "per machine" stats for the main hierarchy: LOTS of sites carry *all* of the 'approved' newsgroups, and so mainline newsgroups will surely have more trouble getting the same 'average' (just as once you distribute a formerly 'club' magaznie nationally, dividing by the new "potential circulation" is hopeless). But that also cuts the other way, of course: LOTS more people have the easy-opportunity to read and post to the new groups. So while I think you have to be judicious about what stats you use and how you weigh them, comparing the new-newsgroup profiles between the hierarchies seems pretty reasonable to me. /Bernie\