Xref: utzoo news.groups:12410 news.misc:3635 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!sun-barr!rutgers!haven!uvaarpa!randall From: randall@uvaarpa.virginia.edu (Randall Atkinson) Newsgroups: news.groups,news.misc Subject: RE: accuracy of arbitron "reader" data Message-ID: <790@uvaarpa.virginia.edu> Date: 21 Sep 89 12:03:02 GMT References: <17735@looking.on.ca> <1989Sep20.060201.4473@rpi.edu> <45814@bbn.COM> <4402@ncar.ucar.edu> <18401@looking.on.ca> Reply-To: randall@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU (Randall Atkinson) Organization: Common Architecture Project, GE-Fanuc Lines: 26 In article <18401@looking.on.ca> brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) writes: >Greg has often written to me that he doesn't feel there is any significant >accuracy to the readers/machine figures that one can derive from Brian's >arbitron figures. One thing is clear, the readers/machine figure is >exact for arbitron sites. Until last month beginning who knows when, edison.cho.ge.com was reporting wildly inaccurrate counts of people reading newsgroups. The reason was that the expire we used didn't have the options that arbitron expected us to use, so our active file misled arbitron about which articles were recent. This has been fixed somewhat, but now arbitron reports the correct number of newsreaders but 0 users on the system. The arbitron data is not exact for arbitron sites. QED Nevertheless, I think that the arbitron and inpaths data are useful benchmarks as long as we recognise upfront that they are not accurate. I do trust them for broad trends and for propogation and flow information. The point about large sites running rrn and sending in misleading "who reads what" statistics is very true. This university (UVa) primarily uses rrn to a single machine and so any reports which might be sent from here are going to be much lower than reality with respect to the "reader" data. DISCLAIMER: I don't speak for the corporation which is the University of Virginia; these are my own views.