Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!watmath!att!dptg!rutgers!gatech!unmvax!nmtsun!john From: john@nmtsun.nmt.edu (John Shipman) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: What is this bird?? Message-ID: <3215@nmtsun.nmt.edu> Date: 21 Sep 89 23:11:40 GMT References: <3791@helios.ee.lbl.gov> <48214@oliveb.olivetti.com> <48269@oliveb.olivetti.com> Distribution: na Organization: Zoological Data Processing Lines: 44 Michael Mammoser (mjm@oliven.olivetti.com) writes: >...Any other interesting hybrids out there? Thanks for the descriptions of Glaucous-winged x Western gulls, Blue-winged Teal x Northern Shoveler and Snowy Egret x Little Blue Heron. Plumages like this can make strong men weep. In the late 70's I photographed a duck at the Palo Alto Duck Pond that was probably an American x Eurasian Wigeon, according to local expert Ted Chandik. The head was like EW, rufous with a yellow crown stripe, while the body was like AW, with rusty flanks. Another screwball duck I photographed was at Bosque del Apache NWR in central New Mexico in late March 1988. This bird was clearly a male Blue-winged x Cinnamon Teal. The body ground color was a rusty color, much darker than BWT and only a shade lighter than a CT, but covered with small round dark spots all over like BWT. The bird had the BWT's strong white crescent between the bill and eye, and the head above the eye had a strong bluish tinge, but the rest of the head was cinnamon-colored. This business of Glaucous-winged x Western gulls really bothers me. I have a database of all the Christmas Bird Counts from 61-62 through 87-88, and when I look at the occurrence of this form, it looks like it's spreading rapidly on the west coast. In the 69th CBC there are no records of this hybrid. In the 79th, there are records in two counts in Washington (Grays Harbor and Olympia), one in Oregon (Eugene), and none in California. The 87th, however, has records all over northern California (including the Bay Area and Monterey area) and even two in Los Angeles. But I'm afraid it's not the BIRD that spreading, just information on how to identify it! This is one of the big problems in interpreting field data, and in my line of work it bites me all the time. -- John Shipman/Zoological Data Processing/Socorro, New Mexico USENET: ucbvax!unmvax!nmtsun!john CSNET: john@nmtsun.nmt.edu ``A lesson from past over-machined societies...the devices themselves condition the users to employ each other the way they employ machines.'' --Frank Herbert