Xref: utzoo sci.bio:2340 sci.chem:497 sci.med:12463 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.bio,sci.chem,sci.med Subject: Re: Butane death Summary: Methane and hemoglobin Message-ID: <3400@kitty.UUCP> Date: 22 Sep 89 04:12:26 GMT References: <89262.194442RAV103@PSUVM.BITNET> <3398@kitty.UUCP> <4633@ursa-major.SPDCC.COM> Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 48 In article <4633@ursa-major.SPDCC.COM>, dyer@spdcc.COM (Steve Dyer) writes: > In article <3398@kitty.UUCP> larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) writes: > >While methane will directly combine with hemoglobin to > >for methemoglobin, which competes with oxyhemoglobin, I suspect that > >the butane molecule is too large to undergo such a substitution with > >hemoglobin. > > I had always understood that methemoglobin is simply an oxidized form > of hemoglobin, with the ferrous iron (Fe++) in heme oxidized to the > ferric (Fe+++) state. I don't see where methane comes in. Methane > certainly isn't one of the traditionally-enumerated toxic agents which > cause methemoglobinemia, such as nitrites and certain aromatic amines. Congratulations - you caught me in a typographical error. I had meant to say "methanehemoglobin" instead of "methemoglobin", which is entirely different and much more common. However, my typo had no real bearing on the context of my article, which would be clear had you included the sentence preceding that which you quoted: "With respect to direct toxic affects of butane, these may well be minimal." In any event, methane does happen to combine with hemoglobin in a manner analgous to that of carbon monoxide. While the effect is rarely seen in humans and certainly would occur in no instance other than toxic exposure to methane, it has been identified in ruminant animals (like sheep and cattle). Methane gas is produced in the rumen and reticulum and is usually expelled via eructation, although some of the expelled methane is inhaled and thereby absorbed through the lungs. In particular, even more methane is absorbed under the pathological condition known as "bloat", where the methane concentration and vapor pressure increases to the point where it is absorbed by blood vessels in the rumen, reticulum, omasum and abomasum. Using methane tagged with carbon-14, methanehemoglobin has been identified. While most of these studies have appeared in the veterinary rather than "human" literature, there was a study on this topic by Dougherty et al which appeared in the American Journal of Physiology in the mid 1960's. While the absorption and metabolism of methane and certain related hydrocarbons in humans is a bit arcane, I happen to be familiar with some literature on the topic as a result of developing analytical methods and instruments for evaluation of human occupational exposure to various chemical agents. <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp. - Uniquex Corp. - Viatran Corp. <> UUCP {allegra|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> TEL 716/688-1231 | 716/773-1700 {hplabs|utzoo|uunet}!/ \uniquex!larry <> FAX 716/741-9635 | 716/773-2488 "Have you hugged your cat today?"