Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!mailrus!ames!amdcad!military From: prahrens@pttesac.UUCP (Peter Ahrens) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Learning in War Summary: Wrong war, wrong enemy, and a question Keywords: preparations, exocet Message-ID: <27412@amdcad.AMD.COM> Date: 22 Sep 89 06:52:51 GMT References: <27375@amdcad.AMD.COM> Sender: cdr@amdcad.AMD.COM Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, San Francisco, Ca. Lines: 44 Approved: military@amdcad.amd.com From: prahrens@pttesac.UUCP (Peter Ahrens) In article <27375@amdcad.AMD.COM> cew@venera.isi.edu (Craig E. Ward) writes: > >It has often been said that armies do not reform until after they've been >beaten. This leads to a more interesting question: How can a military >establishment unlearn the lessons of past victories? >...[valid examples of the failure to adjust deleted]... >What does this mean for the military establishments of today, not just for >the US and NATO, but also for the SU and the Warsaw Pact? Are they ready for >the next war or the last? If that war is between these two establishments, perhaps it would be both next and last. But it is clear (to me, at least) that the war each is preparing for, against the other, is actually of very low probability. Neither is likely to be prepared for the war they will actually face. The Soviets currently appear to be facing something resembling civil war or uprising (performance in Afghanistan or Georgia is not reassuring in this context). The U.S. faces terrorist opponents, drug or jihad, who are not generally impressed with conventional military power, particularly when it is rendered impotent by domestic ethical, economic and political considerations. An effective demonstration of a small, deadly rapid deployment force against "narco-terrorists" would go a lot farther than the threat to shoot down civilian aircraft. (If you are really going to "make war" on somebody.) An interesting recent example is the case of the British in the Falklands, who were about to sell to the Australians one of their two carriers (Hermes, I think) based on an analysis of their support role in a European conflict against the Soviets. Turned out they needed it pretty badly a little bit farther south. Convincing demonstration of the utility of Carrier Battle Groups? A question for the learned: anyone willing to compare the exocet hit on HMS Sheffield in the Falklands versus the hit on the USS Stark in the Persian Gulf, with respect to the design of the vessels? -Peter Ahrens