Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!watmath!iuvax!cica!gatech!prism!ccsupos From: ccsupos@prism.gatech.EDU (SCHREIBER, O. A.) Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle Subject: Re: Why 3 SSME's? Message-ID: <1979@hydra.gatech.EDU> Date: 22 Sep 89 01:10:31 GMT References: <24@loop.UUCP> Reply-To: ccsupos@prism.gatech.EDU (SCHREIBER, O. A.) Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 49 In article <24@loop.UUCP> keithl@loop.UUCP (Keith Lofstrom) writes: > >Why three 2 MegaNewton SSME's rather than one 6MN engine? > Would an F-1 have been possible? Less specific impulse but denser fuel. >Back when NASA was choosing contractors for the SSME, Pratt & Whitney >had a 2MN LH/LOX engine on the shelf; NASA went with Rocketdyne for >political reasons. I read about that too. For what market did P&W intend its product or why was it ready so much earlier than Rocketdyne's? Also, about the shuttle, I have an issue of "Discover" (end of '85) that deals with the design history of the shuttle. In addition to the early horizontal takeoff and landing configurations which make sense to me (less thrust necessary on the vehicle) my attention was caught by the mention that in '74 two features were dropped from the design: Air breathing engines for rentry flight and Abort rockets. If the orbiter weighs 80 tons and one has two 50 tons abort rockets to lift away the orbiter from the rest of the stack in case of SRB ("major") malfunction during ascent I think it would have been worthwhile to keep that feature in the design of what was supposed to become a routine access to space vehicle. I must add that on the drawing of 'Discover', the two rockets were positioned at the trailing edge of the wing of the Orbiter. After all, all the early manned space vehicle had abort rockets albeit in the form of escape towers. It seems to me that you don't just design a manned space vehicle by being satisfied with a percentage of catastrophic failure low enough, you ought to supply a backup escape system at least in the most traumatic sequence of flight (vertical ascent). About the Challenger accident, the public was struck by the fact that once the problem occured, the astronauts could not do anything and the press, long after Challenger exploded kept on speculating on how long some of the crew members stayed conscious. Sure, there was nothing that could be done about the shuttle to prevent the loss of the crew or may be there was...back in 1974 when they drop the escape rockets from the design. By the way, the Europeans quickly put an escape system in the planning of their Hermes project soon after the accident whereas they had not planned for any prior to that. -- Olivier Schreiber (404)894 6147, Office of Computing Services Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!ccsupos ARPA: ccsupos@prism.gatech.edu