Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: zach@drutx.att.com (Zach Lewis) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: The God That Can Remain Silent Message-ID: Date: 13 Sep 89 07:46:34 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO Lines: 107 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article <961@cbnewse.ATT.COM>, archmage@cbnewse.ATT.COM (scott.t.grant) writes: > In article <457f13ff.be99@apollo.HP.COM>, jking@apollo.HP.COM (John King) writes: > > Stuff deleted ... > > Jesus himself is an enigma. His first messages were of love. Love and > understanding. He then changes his ministry into one of judgement and > condemnation with the "fire and by the sword" bit. Is Justice a part of Love. I see many posting like this and find almost everytime a person who does not understand what Hell is about or the Judgement. Let's look at the Judgement first: What does the word mean ? The dictionary says this the mental ability to perceive and distinguish between two things. Now how does that relate to God. the Bible makes it clear and shows over and over again that the devil has tried to tell man that he can live without God. Adam and Eve in the garden wanted to be their own god, but what was the fruit of their decision ? Use your Judgement ! Fear entered the world because of their choice. Today we see a society that lives as if there is no God. What are the fruits of such a life. (drugs, theft, murder, rape, etc.) Is this what the Bible talks about. 2 Timothy 3:1-5. Use your Judgement. The Bible gives you God's will for man and man chose to go contrary. What does your judgement say ? Are we better off as Reagan says ? Use your judgement. The Judgement is the time when God finally says here's what I said, Here's what you did, what are the fruits of your decision ? Judge . Is God's Word clear ? Many say no but let's look at the basic principles that the Bible makes clear. What is the two laws. Mark 12:29-34. Love God, Love Neigbor ! Who is my neigbor ? Luke 10:25-37 Everybody even the person that might hate you. If the world has the Love talked about in the Bible would we have a drug problem, rape, murder, war, etc. Use your Judgement ! IT is a choice ? > > If there should happen to be a God then he is a cold and cruel one. He > remains silent to those who seek to know him. He ignores his creation and > the suffering of his "children". God ignores where do you find that. People abuse people why do you blame God ? I guess you want God to treat us like prisoners not allowing us to choose to do wrong things and killing anyone in the act of doing wrong. Could we use our judgement if God kill everyone when he knew that the choice that they made that day would kill a child that day or down the years through inherited medical problems ? Use your judgment ! > vain, and above all, a spoiled brat. In re-reading the bible from a non- > biased point of view, it is the devil who comes across as the friend of > mankind. He is the one who brings us knowledge of Good and Evil in the > Old Testament, only through a knowledge of Good and Evil can you truly have > free will....otherwise you cannot make a descision. Does the above make sense ? Adam and Eve knew what Good and Evil was they choose to follow the Evil. Use your Judgement ! Does the devil wants the best for people ? Use your judgement ! Have you ever seen real demon possesion ? The devil is the enemy of FREE WILL ! Drugs are the work of the devil and addiction is the sure result of following the devil and that takes away your free will. cigarettes, alchol, cocaine, caffine, etc. The list of things that the devil trys to use to control men. Does the Bible suggest the use of these or does it say that wine is amocker and strong drink raging abd whoever is deceived thereby is NOT wise. proverbs 20:1. Use your judgement ! Zac