Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!apple!sun-barr!lll-winken!vette!brooks From: brooks@vette.llnl.gov (Eugene Brooks) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: VLIW Architecture Keywords: VLIW Message-ID: <35596@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> Date: 12 Oct 89 03:50:55 GMT References: <251FCB3F.12366@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> <1050@m3.mfci.UUCP> <13050@pur-ee.UUCP> <1630@l.cc.purdue.edu> <1989Oct5.025841.2046@esegue.segue.boston.ma.us> <3449@alliant.Alliant.COM> <1071@m3.mfci.UUCP> <3460@alliant.Alliant.COM> Sender: usenet@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV Reply-To: brooks@maddog.llnl.gov (Eugene Brooks) Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory Lines: 23 In article <3460@alliant.Alliant.COM> lewitt@alliant.Alliant.COM (Martin E. Lewitt) writes: >I was with Alliant when the Multi-flow Trace 7 first started shipping. >While we didn't fear the Trace 7 in most application areas, the Trace 7 >did turn out to be a tough competitor in certain areas, e.g., >the integer (non-floating point) ECAD codes. However, after some initial >competitive success for the Trace 7, I noticed that Alliant was no longer >losing this market to the Multi-flow, but to the SUN-4 Sparcstation instead. You vendors of custom processors has better take note of this statement. It is really amusing to see the Multi-flow and Alliant fellows bragging at how well they are doing when single chip microprocessors run circles around their entire multiprocessor complexes. The SUN-4 Sparcstation which did all this "damage" is an absolute DOG compared to the most recent Sparc, MIPS, or i860 chip sets. No doubt a real terror from Motorola is not far away. The lifetime of custom processors, even processors like the Cray line, are real short. Imagine the surprise of CRI executives when they realize that they are no longer losing market share to the Japanese super computer companies, and are now losing market share to microprocessors. We are watching this happen internally at LLNL and do not doubt that it is happening elsewhere. There is no defense against the ATTACK OF THE KILLER MICROS! brooks@maddog.llnl.gov, brooks@maddog.uucp