Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!hplabs!nsc!pyramid!infmx!aland From: aland@infmx.UUCP (Dr. Scump) Newsgroups: comp.os.misc Subject: Re: Operating systems Message-ID: <2467@infmx.UUCP> Date: 4 Oct 89 06:01:51 GMT References: <6649@hubcap.clemson.edu| <15064@netnews.upenn.edu> Reply-To: aland@infmx.UUCP (alan denney) Organization: INFORMIX Professional Services ("Peace thru Normalization") Lines: 44 In article <15064@netnews.upenn.edu| ferris@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Richard Ferris) writes: |I have used two IBM mainframe operating systems: TSO and CMS. |A friend of mine mentioned that at her computer installation |they were changing over to MVS as the new operating system. |Not being very knowledgable about these things, I was wondering |what is the deal with that OS and whether it is something that |replaces CMS or runs under it. Could someone give me a very |quick explanation? I would really appreciate it. | |Thanks. RF | |Richard T. Ferris |ferris@eniac.seas.upenn.edu |University of Pennsylvania TSO and CMS are *not* operating systems -- they are two different forms of time-sharing subsystems on IBM mainframes. TSO, short for Time Sharing Option, usually runs under an MVS variant such as MVS/SP or MVS/XA or (whatever the new one is, MVS/E-something). A TSO user is an MVS task and can submit jobs at will. Privileged TSO users can even submit operator commands. (Including shutting down the system, if s/he knows how. Scary, huh?) CMS, short for Conversational Monitor System (?), is a user interface that is typically run on top of VM. Of course, keep in mind that VM is a true Virtual Machine capability, and you can run *other* operating systems under VM if you desire. For example, my old company had a massive amount of in-house software that required extensive conversions to run under MVS/XA. They did the bulk of their testing by running MVS/XA under VM on a much smaller mainframe, and still got usable results. Corrections welcome -- I've been out of that end of the industry for a couple of years... -- Alan S. Denney @ Informix Software, Inc. {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland "I want to live! -------------------------------------------- as an honest man, Disclaimer: These opinions are mine alone. to get all I deserve If I am caught or killed, the secretary and to give all I can." will disavow any knowledge of my actions. - S. Vega