Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:39980 comp.protocols.appletalk:2530 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!uci-ics!truesdel From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.protocols.appletalk Subject: Re: Increasing RAM on AppleShare Server Keywords: RAM AppleShare Message-ID: <1989Oct12.114440.27973@paris.ics.uci.edu> Date: 12 Oct 89 11:44:40 GMT References: <349@sdcc19.ucsd.EDU> <1989Oct11.022443.25922@paris.ics.uci.edu> <33912@beta.lanl.gov> Sender: news@paris.ics.uci.edu (Network News) Distribution: usa Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 38 Lee Ankeny mentions testing LocalTalk and EtherTalk AppleShare implementations and coming up with negligible performance differences. He is not the first person to point this out to me. Someone with experience with EtherTalk on my same campus emailed me to state the the improvement just wasn't that great. Frankly I'm shocked, and I volunteered to come look for bottlenecks. It seems, though, that this lack of blazing speed improvement is not uncommon. The only experience I have had with Macs on EtherNet is on a small Novell network. I was very favorably impressed with the performance of this setup. Very. As in, "almost as fast as a local hard disk". The Novell server is an Everex Step 386 with a large, fast HD (I forget which make). I still think something's fishy with the EtherTalk setups. Unless we are looking at the software being the bottleneck. And, at Ethernet speeds, the performance of a Plus, such as Lee tested, would be quite noticeable. I know good hardware is not the bottleneck. I routinely ftp between my ethernet-equiped Mac and our campus's large UNIX machines at 20k/sec and the same file via [empty] LocalTalk/AppleShare goes at ave. 14k/sec. So what's the difference? Time of day / peak useage. If I were to perform the same transfers during peak useage, the ftp would drop to around 10k-15k/sec while the LocalTalk would drop to it's knees around .25 - .5k/sec or worse. What this shows to me is that the cabling scheme is like the freeway/expressway while the servers and clients and their software are like the on-ramps and off-ramps. Ethernet is basically buying you more lanes on the freeway. I guess this also points out where the ral benefits of EtherNet lie. --scott -- Scott Truesdell