Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!jfinke From: jfinke@itsgw.rpi.edu (Jon Finke) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Thick or Thin Summary: Slide lock is evil Keywords: thinnet, thicknet, costs, transceivers, xcvrs Message-ID: <1989Oct4.153141.19593@rpi.edu> Date: 4 Oct 89 15:31:41 GMT References: <42457@sgi.sgi.com> <2781@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> <4028@phri.UUCP> Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 33 In <4028@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes: > I suppose the thick trunk cable is pretty tough, and the way the >typical vampire tap xciever connects to the cable is pretty good, but the >stupid D-15 connectors for the xciever drop cable is a disaster. The >xciever ends don't give us any trouble because they are hidden away in a >ceiling or wall where nobody can touch them, and we have the drop cable >firmly lashed to the trunk cable with 2 or 3 nylon cable ties to keep them I have had cables like this cause problems when someone else pulls a wire throught the ceiling, or opens the ceiling for any other reason. >from shifting. On the other hand, the connection from the xciever cable to >the workstations is our single most common cause of network failures. You >just can't take a stiff heavy cable and expect it to stay attached to a >flimsy slide-lock widget, especialy where the cable and/or the workstation >are capable of being moved by accident. We also found this to be our most common ethernet failure at RPI. It is now standard practice here to replace slide lock hardware with screw lock hardware for all installations. We mostly use thinnet, but enough equipment comes through with the DB15s that we still convert when it arrives. About half the equipment can be modified without opening the covers. I don't think we have had a failure of a screw lock connected DB15. We also make a lot of our own drop cables, that way we can get the correct hoods and hardware for them. Some cables can also be modified for screwlock hardware. This does preclude the use of right angle cables, but that seems a small price to pay for the greatly increased reliability. -- Jon Finke jfinke@itsgw.rpi.edu Network Systems Engineer USERB239@RPITSMTS.BITNET Information Technology Services 518 276 8185 (voice) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 518 276 2809 (fax)