Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!ginosko!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pro-houston.cts.com!jabernathy From: jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com (Joe Abernathy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: FPE and a transwarp gs Message-ID: <8910031316.AA12384@trout.nosc.mil> Date: 3 Oct 89 09:48:33 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 44 Network Comment: to #652 by adm!smoke!gwyn@nyu.edu I use the two together. I can tell you that my computer's extremely fast, but just how fast is hard to say. Particularly where a math coprocessor is concerned, you get into all kinds of subjectives ... what kind of work do you do with your machine, how often does your work involve number-crunching, and is the potential for time savings worth the considerable cost. The answer to every question is different with every user. The FPE speeds up things like spreadsheets, some graphics, and some things that are really hard to measure, such as FOR loops in programs written in certain compilers. The TWGS is a more broad-based accelerator, but as someone mentioned, its acceleration in any one area of system performance is pretty wimpy compared to the FPE. The thing is that the TWGS accelerators almost everything -- so it is the first accelerator most people should buy. If you're into fractals, or astronomy, or math, or anything similar, the FPE could well be a better investment. For amusement, I designed some loose -- very loose -- benchmarks to try to compare my system's performance with other machines. I used the FPE, TWGS, Multi-Kache disk accelerator w/SCSI option (getting an effective disk read of about 10 ms), and caching. My GS is comparable to, if not a little faster than, a Mac II, and it runs circles around an IBM clone 386 with a clock speed of 20 MHz. Curiously, however, a IIe running with a 10 MHz Rocket Chip is faster than my machine. (Actually, this isn't so curious. My tests were based on the Finder environment, and there just isn't any IIe software that takes up comparable resources to the Finder ... so there can be no valid comparison.) As for incompatibility between FPE and TWGS, there is. Applied Engineering did the fix, and at the time I discovered the imcompatibility, they set a policy of making the upgrade free of charge. Knowing AE, however, it would be worth a call before sending in your card to see what the policy is today. Another compatibility problem with FPE occurs if you try to compile programs written under Micol Advanced BASIC. This problem arose once, was fixed by innovative Systems, and then came back up under v3.0 of Micol BASIC. Somebody is ignoring programming standards ... and at this date, the problem has not been fixed. UUCP: crash!pro-houston!jabernathy ARPA: crash!pro-houston!jabernathy@nosc.mil INET: jabernathy@pro-houston.cts.com