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From: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Apple //c & Proline
Message-ID: <927@madnix.UUCP>
Date: 8 Oct 89 04:16:46 GMT
References: <8910032347.AA29046@trout.nosc.mil>
Reply-To: rat@madnix.UUCP (David Douthitt)
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Morgan Davis (mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com) wrote:
|
| Until the No-Slot Clock (and clones), the IIc was clockless
| (the serial port clock design is a real loser).  No easy method is provided
| for accessing the Day of Week (Sun...Sat) and seconds from the chip-based
| clocks, as ProDOS supports only date, month, year, hours and minutes.

I've used a CPU IIc System Clock for years and it works just fine -
in fact, much better than the Serial Pro which I bought some time ago
for my II+.  While it doesn't work well as a serial port, it works just
fine in slot 1.

| IIc owners who install enhancements into their machines also routinely
| have trouble using the latest Apple II system software releases,
| because so many of the enhancements require patches to ProDOS.
| They usually keep running old, buggy system software because they
| don't have access to the latest PRODOS with the patches they need.
| We cannot support ProLine adequately when used in obsolete operating
| system setups.

I've not had any trouble using my CPU IIc System Clock - the clock
driver works well with any Prodos release.

As for modems and hard drives, there's the Quark QC10, the ProApp
series, and most notably (unless I'm mistaken) some sort of internal
driver replacing the 5.25" from Applied Ingenuity.  Also, there is
the Practical Peripherals 2400 Baud modem.


I acknowledge that putting together a IIc BBS provides unique
challenges - but a BBS sysop should be up to it.  If not, they should
find something other to do than run a BBS.

Also, does this mean that ModemWorks does not support the IIc?
Does it support the CPU IIc System Clock (and thus the Prodos
time standards?)

Just trying to stick up for a much misunderstood computer .... as if
the Apple II didn't have enough PR troubles.

	[david]

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