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From: t-jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Tony Jacobs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: anti-educational discount legislati
Message-ID: <1989Oct6.130835.28348@hellgate.utah.edu>
Date: 6 Oct 89 19:08:35 GMT
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In article <6758@ingr.com> proctor@ingr.com (John Proctor) writes:
>In article <1989Oct2.102041.245@hellgate.utah.edu>, t-jacobs@cs.utah.edu
>(Tony Jacobs) writes:
>> 
>> DON'T FORGET SOMETHING HERE, this legislation also impacts every computer
>> manufacture and MANY others have discount programs for educational 
>> institutions
>> 
>> Tony Jacobs * Center for Engineering Design * U of U * t-jacobs@ced.utah.edu
>
>Before you all get incensed, remember there is no such thing as a free
>lunch! The rest of us poor working slobs are paying for your discounts.
>Corporate America is not, I repeat, NOT a charitable institution! Sooo
>all you educational types remember who is paying for your discounts! 
>
>Flame on!
>
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No one is getting incensed (yet), the CAPS were merely to emphasise that Apple
is not the only manufacture involved here.

Don't delude youself, companies are still making a profit off educational sales
and are making a tax write off at the same time. They're not jacking up the
sales price everywhere else to subsidize the educational market. I don't think
the dealers price is much different from educational price, the big difference
is that educational institutions aren't making a profit off the resale. (Well,
maybe some are.)

Besides that they are likely making special deals to BIG COMPANYS that are on
the same order of discount. Computer companies maximize profits any way they
can.

My real opinion on the matter is that companies should sell direct and save
us all the expense of a middle man AND then have SERVICE & SUPPORT centers
where they get the help they need and only those who need support have to pay
for it. You could replace 3 or 4 dealers with one good support center and get
much better service. There's an idea for ALL YOU COMPUTER COMPANIES.

I guess according to your philosophy I'm paying extra to support everyone who
gets any kind of service from the dealers. Or do you just want to wine because
someone else gets a better deal than you?

And I suppose you paid 100% for your education too! Sheesh.




Tony Jacobs * Center for Engineering Design * U of U * t-jacobs@ced.utah.edu