Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wuarchive!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!ginosko!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!apple!shebanow From: shebanow@Apple.COM (Andrew Shebanow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: C++ available from APDA for $175 :--( Message-ID: <4690@internal.Apple.COM> Date: 12 Oct 89 01:00:51 GMT References: <137@asihub.UUCP> <4605@internal.Apple.COM> <4153@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> <1989Oct11.064209.9045@agate.berkeley.edu> <5680@merlin.usc.edu> <4672@internal.Apple.COM> <1482@intercon.com> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 16 I should point out that the C++ release includes an updated C compiler with hundreds of bug fixes. This isn't something we're particularly proud of, but it is there. As far as stability goes, I think you'll find that Apple's C++ (even at b1 stage) is much more stable than ANY other CFront 2.0 based product. We've fixed a lot of serious bugs that AT&T missed in 2.0 final, we've gotten rid of a lot of bugs which caused "core dumps" on UNIX and crashes on the Mac, and we implemented a some C++ features that AT&T's version just shrugs its shoulders on and says "sorry, not implemented". By the way, I can now happily report that APDA actually mailed out the first C++ packages today, so it is (finally) a real product! Andrew Shebanow Macintosh Developer Technical Support Apple Computer, Inc.