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From: cpcahil@virtech.UUCP (Conor P. Cahill)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Are terminal writes atomic?
Summary: No!! writes to ttys are NOT ATOMIC.
Message-ID: <1247@virtech.UUCP>
Date: 8 Oct 89 02:26:54 GMT
References: <-286379999@hpcupt1.HP.COM> <1118@cs.yale.edu> <186@promark.UUCP> <191@promark.UUCP>
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In article <191@promark.UUCP>, mark@promark.UUCP (Mark J. DeFilippis) writes:
> In article <19972@mimsy.UUCP>, chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) writes:
> > In article <186@promark.UUCP> mark@promark.UUCP (Mark J. DeFilippis) writes:
> > >How about we take this further.  The answer to this question is an
> > >undocumented feature of write() under Unix.  Several Authors note this
> > 
> > Of course, it might be undocumented because it is false.
> > 
> > On Berkeley systems (4BSD, at least), writes to character devices are
> 
> Indeed I should have qualified my statement, however almost everyone is
> familiar with Rochkind's _Advanced Unix Programming_ book, and they are
> aware it is a SYSTEM V book, not a 4BSD Unix book.
> Under System V, it is a known undocumented item.  By undocumented, I mean
> it was left out of the documentation and under ALL true Unix System V systems,
> atomic writes at the system call level are guaranteed.

NO THIS IS NOT TRUE. Writes are not atomic.  To prove the point I threw the 
following example program together:

	#define BUFSIZE 2048
	main()
	{
		char	buffer[BUFSIZE+1];
		int	i;

		if( fork() == 0 )
		{
			for(i=0; i < BUFSIZE; i++)
				buffer[i] = '0';
			buffer[i++] = '\n';

			write(1,buffer,i);
			exit(0);
		}
		for(i=0; i < BUFSIZE; i++)
			buffer[i] = '1';
		buffer[i++] = '\n';

		write(1,buffer,i);
		exit(0);
	}

On my "true" system V (AT&T System V/386 Release 3.2) this resulted in 
mixed output.  I don't care what someones book says, the real thing says
that it is not atomic.

Try this on your system and see what you get.  

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