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From: bob@odi.COM (Bob Miner)
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Subject: Re: XView vs AT&T OpenLook Toolkit
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Date: 6 Oct 89 19:45:31 GMT
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>     Has anyone out there compared XView to the AT&T OpenLook toolkit ?
>
>     I have heard that XView is not that great if you are not a SunView
>     programmer.  On the other hand:
>
>      - I have heard very little (read nothing) about the AT&T toolkit
>	so I don't know what it is like
>      - XView is probably not the only OpenLook toolkit that Sun will sell
>      - The GUIDE software that will create XView code after interactive
>	definition of your interface will make things easier
>
>     Does anyone have the AT&T toolkit ?  Does it match OpenLook in terms
>     of concepts and terminology ?  Do you know where I can get it ?
>
>     Alan Walford
>
>     MacDonald Dettwiler
>     (604) 278-3411
>
>      ... uunet!van-bc!mdavcr!carto!aew

First, I believe the OpenLook toolkit will match the OpenLook style guide
very well.  It'd be hard to call it an OpenLook toolkit otherwise.

Second, I contacted AT&T about their OpenLook toolkit a few months ago. 
At that time, I found two main contacts:

    Binary Licenses:	Bill Stanger	    (201) 898-6076
    Source Licenses:	George Derby	    (201) 576-3178

Another phone number I've since been given for a salesperson is:

			Nancy Trachtenbarg  (201) 898-6432

The binary version was only available on the AT&T 6386 WGS workstation and
80386-based compatibles like the COMPAQ 386.

I believe, although my memory is fuzzy, that the source version was also
available only on 386 machines.

A source version which would be release quality and portable to other machines
like Sun 3's and 4's, wouldn't be available until early next year.

The cost of the source version of the toolkit, as quoted to me at that time,
was roughly identical to the cost of Motif - $995.  I don't know the cost
of the binary version.

If anyone has more recent information, or corrections to what I've stated,
please let me know.  My information, as I stated, is several months old and
I sincerely don't want to misrepresent AT&T.

I'm not affiliated in any manner with AT&T or Sun.

Bob Miner
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