Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!ateng!chip From: chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Call For Discussion about creating soc.culture.asean Keywords: Call For Discussion ASEAN Message-ID: <25325D07.5785@ateng.com> Date: 10 Oct 89 21:20:06 GMT References: <12833@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> <25291752.19914@ateng.com> <12857@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> <252E1E57.15777@ateng.com> <12953@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> Organization: A T Engineering, Tampa, FL Lines: 45 According to harish@guille.ece.orst.edu (Harish Pillay): >According to chip@ateng.com (Chip Salzenberg): >|According to harish@guille.ece.orst.edu (Harish Pillay): >||there is insufficient familiarity of ASEAN in this part of the world - >||something this newsgroup will be able to address. >| >|Newsgroups don't exist to "address" problems. > >So what do the USENET newsgroups (to use your quotes) "address"? For eg., >comp.sys.ibm.pc addresses problems people have using the IBM pc. They share >solutions and ideas. No, newsgroups do not "address" _anything_. Rather, people sometimes address problems in their articles that they post to Usenet. This distinction is important. You, Harish Pillay, can post your ASEAN articles to misc.misc. You will there address whatever problems you like. You don't need an ASEAN newsgroup to do it. >Isn't it a contradiction of terms in what you say? If there are "already >support discussions" why provide another location? A USENET newsgroup is a >avenue for discussing issues that have no known and/or logical "locations". Not at all. That's what ".misc" newsgroups are for. If you can't find soc.culture.misc or soc.misc, use misc.misc. Then demonstrate that the volume follows the subject, by generating volume in misc.misc. If you don't get the volume then you don't need the newsgroup. Simple. Further, discussion is often supported in a mailing list before it is proposed as a newsgroup. I'm quite sure that "soc.culture.asean" will fail its vote because of its awful name. When that happens, you may want to start a mailing list. (Too much work? Aww, too bad...) >|Further, as has been pointed out by others, ASEAN is not a _social_ >|organization, so it doesn't belong in the soc.all hierarchy at all. > >What makes something that was "pointed out" by someone TRUE over the >contrary? The simple fact is that Harish Pillay's definition of "social" is at odds with most everyone else's. -- You may redistribute this article only to those who may freely do likewise. Chip Salzenberg at A T Engineering; or "'Why do we post to Usenet?' Naturally, the answer is, 'To get a response.'" -- Brad "Flame Me" Templeton