Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!spdcc!xylogics!cloud9!jjmhome!cpoint!alien From: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Voting, single transferrable vote, etc Message-ID: <2673@cpoint.UUCP> Date: 11 Oct 89 18:49:47 GMT References: <8910081919.AA15665@helios.enea.se> <3315@watale.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: alien@cpoint.UUCP (Alien Wells) Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp., Hopkinton Mass. Lines: 79 In article <3315@watale.waterloo.edu> tom@mims-iris.waterloo.edu (Tom Haapanen) writes: >Erland Sommarskog writes: >> ... etc ... etc ... etc ... writes: Various talk about voting systems for multiple names ... There is a much easier way to solve all this, simply, understandably, and without all the mess that I've seen proposed. When a call for votes is proposed, include ALL proposed names. Each person voting votes yes/no on EACH name. A voter simply votes YES on all the names he would find acceptable, and NO on all the names he does not. You then apply your acceptance criteria (which right now seems to be simply delta between YES and NO votes) to each. The best one wins, and if the best one has a high enough threshold the group becomes reality. Let's see how this could be used to cut through the alt.aquaria mess. The proposal goes out: : Vote among the following: :sci.aquaria - :rec.aquaria - :rec.aquarium - :rec.fish - :rec.pets.aquaria - :rec.pets.aquarium - :rec.pets.fish - Some valid votes would be: :sci.aquaria - YES :rec.aquaria - YES :rec.aquarium - NO :rec.fish - NO :rec.pets.aquaria - NO :rec.pets.aquarium - NO :rec.pets.fish - NO :sci.aquaria - NO :rec.aquaria - NO :rec.aquarium - NO :rec.fish - NO :rec.pets.aquaria - NO :rec.pets.aquarium - NO :rec.pets.fish - NO :sci.aquaria - NO :rec.aquaria - YES :rec.aquarium - YES :rec.fish - NO :rec.pets.aquaria - YES :rec.pets.aquarium - YES :rec.pets.fish - YES This is the sort of thing that anyone could understand. If the voting ended up coming out: NAME YES NO sci.aquaria - 84 116 rec.aquaria - 164 36 rec.aquarium - 44 156 rec.fish - 2 198 rec.pets.aquaria - 146 54 rec.pets.aquarium - 32 168 rec.pets.fish - 11 189 Then rec.aquaria would be the winning name, and the difference of 164-36=128 means the group goes through. Please consider this. And please, don't get this confused with the debate on whether to use absolute difference, 100 NOs, ratios, or whatever. This multiple vote system allows any kind of acceptance criteria to be used. The nice thing is that it provides total flexibility and keeps the influence of power plays to a minimum. -- --------| Sometimes I feel like a ball Alien | in the great pinball game of life. --------| - Steve Steir decvax!frog!cpoint!alien bu-cs!mirror!frog!cpoint!alien