Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!ix1.cc.utexas.edu!hac From: hac@ix1.cc.utexas.edu (Alejandro A Hu-Quixote) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: Call For Discussion about creating soc.culture.asean Message-ID: <8910121943.AA29942@ix2.cc.utexas.edu> Date: 12 Oct 89 19:43:58 GMT References: <9895@thorin.cs.unc.edu> Reply-To: hac@ix1.cc.utexas.edu (Alejandro A Hu-Quixote) Organization: University of Texas at Austin Lines: 40 Posted-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 89 14:43:58 CDT To: news-groups@cs.utexas.edu low@unc.cs.unc.edu (Kah-Chan Low) in article <9895@thorin.cs.unc.edu>: >> The result is, presently, there are vast cultural and socio-economic >> differences between the ASEAN countries and Indochina countries. khai@babar.uucp (S. Khai Mong) in article : >To the credit of the *people* of the ASEAN countries. This has not much >to do with colonial heritage. If it weren't for despotic rulers, I am >sure that the people of other countries of SE Asia would love to be as >prosperous as ASEAN. The fact that the ASEAN countires recognize the >savage rulers (the Khmer Rouge), and continue to give military >supplies (to Burma) doesn't help the situation either. This newsgroup (news.groups) is not a proper place to criticize the policies of ASEAN. Probably the proposed soc.culture.asean will be. Why don't y'all wait till the proposed newsgroup gets created, and continue the discussions there? Kah-Chan Low: >> Most importantly, we (the people from the 6 countries) do not perceive >> the Indochina countries as "on the same boat" as ours. S. Khai Mong: >Oh yeah? Stinks of elitism. And I have the opinion that this is what all >pro-s.c.asean people are advocating. ``We don't want to have anything >to do with those poor and opressed masses . . . we have nothing in >common with them . . . Keep them out''. And I wonder why you have to >use the pronoun ``we'' rather than ``I''. A ha, I see. You get upset because you are not invited to the party! But we don't have the obligation to invite all our neighbors! -- Alex Hu for a liberal and unbiased s.c.asean