Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!iuvax!watmath!looking!brad From: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: news.groups Subject: Re: These stubborn group champions Message-ID: <33610@looking.on.ca> Date: 14 Oct 89 19:51:13 GMT References: <8910132350.AA08591@helios.enea.se> <35637@apple.Apple.COM> Reply-To: brad@looking.on.ca (Brad Templeton) Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Lines: 25 Class: rebuttal In article <35637@apple.Apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes: >Some would say that she held the group up for blackmail -- do it my way or >no way at all. How is this different from what people are accusing the >name.czars of doing? I would ask instead, "how is it similar?" I find this an odd statement to come from a moderator. If she wanted to create and moderate the group, then of course she can say she's not interested in doing it certain ways. I am disturbed by the fact the the hierarchies are now getting stigmas and plusses around them, to the point that people fight tooth and nail over what hierarchy a group goes in. What's the point? Typical "talk" group propagation (the 'worst' hierarchy) is 80%. Typical "comp" is 96%. Typical "rec" is about 86% and goes as high as 94. "soc" is similar, "misc" is slightly higher. "sci" is around 90-95%. In other words, who the fuck cares? All this fuss about whether a group goes in a hierarchy that might give it 5% more distribution? And that 5% mostly marginal sites that will prune any group they don't like anyway? People wake up. GET A LIFE! -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473