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From: dwj@acd4.UUCP ( Dan Johnson         )
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: modification of newgroup charter (mandetory .misc usage)
Summary: Another modest proposal
Keywords: announcement mandatory? newgroup
Message-ID: <1989Oct15.181834.19354@acd4.UUCP>
Date: 15 Oct 89 18:18:34 GMT
References: <46889@bbn.COM> <1989Oct13.004003.5418@ginger.acc.com> <167@ark1.nswc.navy.mil>
Reply-To: dwj@acd4.UUCP ( Dan Johnson         )
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute, IN
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In article <167@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> Dave Sill <dsill@relay.nswc.navy.mil> writes:
>In article <46889@bbn.COM>, levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
>> [90-day trial period in .misc] would have prohibited the splitting
>> out of comp.sys.mac.programmers, comp.sys.mac.hardware [)-:],
>> rec.arts.tv.uk, and sci.med.physics, among others.
>> 
>> I don't think this is a great idea.
>
>One flaw does not invalidate the whole idea.
>[...]
>Anyway, when this flaw was later pointed out, I amended the "rule" so
>it wouldn't apply to splits.

An alternate suggestion would be to make sure that any proposal was
*announced* in the next higher level group, or a .misc group in the
absence of an actual group at the next level up (e.g., there is no
group simply named "sci").

Hence, the proposal for rec.arts.tv.uk would have been mentioned in
rec.arts.tv, if it hadn't been before the announcement in news.groups
(that was before my time).  The proposal and discussion for
soc.culture.asean seems to be cross-posted to soc.culture.misc (good).
A *serious* proposal for news.avian would be announced in news.misc.
Rec.pets.aquaria should be announced in rec.pets if that proposal
becomes serious.  And the proposal for sci.aquaria should be announced
in sci.misc, if it has not been already (I don't always notice the
list of cross-posts).  Of course, under the circumstances, this last
could amount to an additional invitation to the current flame war :-(.

In general, this would not affect splits.  Only jumps across the
hierarchy and completely new groups would need to worry about this.

Btw, I intend to vote NO to sci.aquaria.  (My $0.02)
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