Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!rpi!tale From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions Subject: Re: Why doesn't someone create and easy to use rn? Message-ID: <1989Oct10.235247.13717@rpi.edu> Date: 10 Oct 89 23:52:47 GMT References: <1085@shiva.misemi> <2831@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk> <885@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 40 In <885@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> storkus@arrakis.nevada.edu (Mike Storke N7MSD): Mike> Well, if those news readers (Vn, nn) are so superior to rn, Mike> then why is it that more administrators don't get them as a Mike> replacement? We're using rn here. Do I go to the Mike> administrators, and talk to them, or what do I do? Sure, talk to them. See what they have to say. It might even help a little in some cases if you got the package first and could address what is gained by installing it. Why don't more administrators get them? Various reasons. For one, there is nothing really that is "so superior" about them; often times the claim of such superiority is more subjective than objective. Another reason could be that many news adminstrators don't pay much attention to news. They'll look at it if it is broken, but in general they just leave it be. The software they run falls behind in patchlevels and new software isn't tried. Sometimes it is a matter of available diskspace, or just convenience. As an example, I directly support three readers here -- rn, nn and GNUS. I'm quite inclined to simply toss nn because I don't personally like it, but I know there are other readers who do like it, so it stays. If I have a little free time (HAH!) maybe I'll get something else. More likely, if someone comes to me and says, "Hey, I like , would you please install it?" I probably will. That is indeed the case with readnews, which someone has told me he uses for non-interactive processing. I just haven't gotten around to messing with the readnews provided for C News, whose building is not well-coordinated with the rest of the C News configuration. Oh, one more thing. Many sites don't even _have_ a news admin. The person who installed it doesn't work there anymore, for example, and the system just sort of runs itself. Mail to news or usenet@that.site goes unanswered and administrative details like adding and removing groups aren't addressed. That sort of site is very likely to be behind the times for news software, too. Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@pawl.rpi.edu" "tale@itsgw.rpi.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))