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From: srg@quick.COM (Spencer Garrett)
Newsgroups: news.software.b
Subject: Re: Ultrix 3 and News 3.0
Message-ID: <6366@quick.COM>
Date: 4 Oct 89 05:40:22 GMT
References: <8910021303.AA01805@edison.CHO.GE.COM> <840@maxim.erbe.se>
Organization: Quicksilver Engineering, Seattle
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In article <840@maxim.erbe.se>, prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) writes:
= In article <8910021303.AA01805@edison.CHO.GE.COM> rja <rja@edison.cho.ge.com> writes:
= 
= >  I copied the News 3.0/TMNN sources via anonymous FTP from Berkeley a couple
= >of weeks back and have spent some frustrating time trying to bring it up here
= >on edison.   I suspect that the problems lie mostly with Ultrix peculiarities,
= >but the folks working on News 3.0 need to know that none of the shell scripts
= >to do automatic configuration and such work properly under Ultrix 3.x.  
= 
= I got a copy of TMNN 7.8 sent to me and tried to bring it up on an Encore
= Multimax running UMAX V 2.2. There were a couple of problems with
= Makefile.dst, a few source files that needed to be corrected and so on.
= After a couple of evening's worth of work, I succeeded to compile it without
= any errors, but, after having installed the package, expire wouldn't run,
= even though I asked it to rebuild the history file from the existing news
= files. I got some error with the history file. The install script created
= .../history, where it really should've been history.{pag,dir,map} (or
= something similar; anyway, three files). I created those (empty) files,
= but expire still wouldn't work. So I finally gave up.

Alas, this is exactly the same experience I had on one of the systems
they claim to fully support (Sun 3/50 running Sunos 3.5).  I sent a list
of all the problems I found (and corrected, until I hit the expire
bogosity) to eric, but I haven't heard anything.  I'm sorry to have
to snipe like this, but it's clear from the nature of the problems
I found that the TMNN folks haven't done a from-scratch install
of this release on *any* system, much less the ones they claim
are solid.  (The installation document really does claim that,
on any of the listed systems, you should be able to just run
Configure and "make install".  Hah!)