Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!henry.jpl.nasa.gov!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ucla-cs!Hoffman.es@XEROX.COM From: Hoffman.es@XEROX.COM Newsgroups: sci.med.aids Subject: Re: "Is it attempted Murder" Message-ID: <27730@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: 4 Oct 89 22:09:20 GMT Sender: news@CS.UCLA.EDU Lines: 39 Approved: aids@cs.ucla.edu Archive-number: 1300 This message was originally submitted by Hoffman.es@XEROX.COM to the AIDS list at RUTVM1. If you simply forward it back to the list, it will be distributed with the paragraph you are now reading being automatically removed. If you edit the contributions you receive into a digest, you will need to remove this paragraph before mailing the result to the list. Finally, if you need more information from the author of this message, you should be able to do so by simply replying to this note. ----------------- Message requiring your approval (30 lines) ------------------ Several people have objected to Jay Schuster's answers, wherein he laid the responsibility on EVERYONE, not just someone who is infected. I must strongly agree with Jay Schuster. OK, so he should have inserted the word "new" in this paragraph: >*Everyone* is a carrier of HIV. Or at least, that's what you should >be thinking when you are having sex with someone NEW. And you shouldn't >change your behavior when they tell you they are negative. Then married folks with trustworthy spouses, like Robert Hamer (in article 1288) won't get so offended, I hope. Schuster goes on to say that "No one is forcing you to have sex with this person. If you catch AIDS from them, I think it's pretty much your problem, not theirs." OK, so he should have left off the last two words. It's obviously a terrible problem now for both people. Sure, the infected person ought to be held accountable for his/her behavior. But that does NOT mean that you, if you are UNINFECTED, are blameless if you become infected through risky sexual behavior. The situation is NOT "analogous to [blaming] women who get raped because they were dumb enough to walk down a deserted street ...." (quote from Hamer). Sex is generally more consequential than walking. The better analogy here is to a woman who becomes pregnant when she doesn't want to. Whose fault is it? Both parties, I would say. -- Rodney Hoffman