Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: JDO103@PSUVM.PSU.EDU (A Military Hist. Major) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Surprise in air combat Message-ID: <9930@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 5 Oct 89 02:13:58 GMT References: <9876@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Penn State University Lines: 30 Approved: military@att.att.com From: A Military Hist. Major I forgot who posted about the FW-190 being designed and produced during WWII, but you are correct in saying that it was produced until the end of the war. (Or as close to it as Germany could still produce.) When the '190 appeared on the scene, it outperformed nearly (if not all) every aircraft the allies had. It was later surpassed by our fighters, but it did have it's time of superiority. It could out-turn, climb, shoot, and run a Spitfire of the same time period. ( I say same time period because something like 24 different versions were created from pre- to post- WW2.) I have read accounts by pilots who have flown the '190 and the '109 and nearly all said the '190 was the superior aircraft by far. To whoever wrote about the pilot training being as significant as the aircraft being flown. You are correct in this insight. Take the Flying Tigers for example. The flew against the Japanese "Zero" in old P-40 Warhawks and Tomahawks (I believe those are the types, I DO know they were P-40's) and yet had an incredible kill ratio for the planes they flew. The "Zero" was faster and more maneuverable, yet were knocked down more often than the Tiger's. (The fact that the P-40's were tough as hell, helped a bit, too.) The same lessons were learned in Vietnam. It is aircrew+aircraft to make a winning team. You MUST have both. -Dave [Sorry...No signature block!]