Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!military From: ut-emx!walt.cc.utexas.edu!rdd@cs.utexas.edu (Robert Dorsett) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: B1-B accidents Message-ID: <10086@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 11 Oct 89 02:44:06 GMT References: <10019@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Lines: 37 Approved: military@att.att.com From: ut-emx!walt.cc.utexas.edu!rdd@cs.utexas.edu (Robert Dorsett) In article <10019@cbnews.ATT.COM> chenj@cmcl2.NYU.EDU (James Chen) writes: > > >From: chenj@cmcl2.NYU.EDU (James Chen) >Has anyone else hear it? I ask because I never heard about it >again either in the papers or on TV. It seems from my faulty >memory that there's been a large number of accidents with the >B1-B's, e.g. birds sucked into the intakes, tanks ruptures by >the swept wings, etc. Does anyone know how many and if this is >unusual for a relatively new plane? The bird intake problem is endemic for all aircraft. The frequency of the B-1 hits suggests the B-1 is being flown at low altitudes. Airplanes--any airplane--can be destroyed by flying into birds. On airliners, disintegrated engines, radomes, broken windshields, etc. are all fairly common. The solution would be to conduct training missions at a higher altitude (need to get up to > ~5000 MSL to miss most birds). Considering that we only have 97 B-1's left, it might be a good idea. The punctured tank problem, on the other hand, stinks of bad design. 'Course, to get out of bad design, manufacturers often simply place the onus of respon- sibility on the *operator*--the pilot. So as long as they cover themselves on paper, they can point fingers at operator error (which is how least one tank- puncture incident ended up). >I read in Insight that the M16 rifle & M-1 Abrams tank got a >lot of bad press early in their development. They have, however, >turned out to be excellent weapons Actually, I think it might be pointed out that the M-16 was replaced by special- ty weapons in many of its problem areas. Can anyone substantiate this?