Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!tale From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: alt.sources.d Subject: Re: moderation of alt.sources vs. automated harangues Message-ID: <1989Oct17.005207.16223@rpi.edu> Date: 17 Oct 89 00:52:07 GMT References: <2024@convex.UUCP> <1989Oct13.192835.1330@talos.uucp> <1989Oct14.012800.12049@rpi.edu> <2645@pur-phy> <1989Oct15.003835.9012@rpi.edu> <17149@rpp386.cactus.org> Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY Lines: 31 In article <17149@rpp386.cactus.org>, jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II): John> How about you tell us what the need =isn't=. Your argument has been John> no more persuading than his. I never said my argument was persuading, but at least it does have the characteristics of a more civilized debate. I already had stated what the need "=isn't=". I not only presented further elaboration on Kyle's posting I also presented why that position might be supported and why it might be undermined. And then Ray returned by saying "but there is a need for an unmoderated source group, and alt.sources fills that need" without providing _anything_ to indicate what that need is. I asked for more support for that point of view (which I am very receptive to -- I am not steadfastly pushing for moderated alt.sources) and then you came and did a grep of your active file and said that I need to tell you why moderation would be a good thing, which I had already done. There has _got_ to be more to than this simply countering with, "No. It's not good." John> I will now state, without further proof, that in the case of John> alt.sources and friends moderation is a Bad Thing[tm]. Okay, why? And how was a grep on your active file was sufficient proof? alt.sources.amiga was being "actively" moderated by Peter, so it isn't a good comparison for the matter at hand. It was also limited to one sort of source code which has a companion group or comp.sources.amiga. I like Russ Nelson's proposal. Read it in alt.config. Dave -- (setq mail '("tale@pawl.rpi.edu" "tale@itsgw.rpi.edu" "tale@rpitsmts.bitnet"))