Xref: utzoo comp.ai.neural-nets:1010 alt.cyb-sys:35 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uwm.edu!rpi!leah!bingvaxu!cjoslyn From: cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn) Newsgroups: comp.ai.neural-nets,alt.cyb-sys Subject: Re: Data Complexity Message-ID: <2521@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> Date: 17 Oct 89 01:42:35 GMT References: <4542@imagen.UUCP> Reply-To: cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu.cc.binghamton.edu (Cliff Joslyn) Organization: SUNY Binghamton, NY Lines: 70 I'd like to thank the contributors (I agree more with the latter). This discussion was originally cross-posted to alt.cyb-sys, and this conversation continues on subjects of key interest to systems scientists and cyberneticians. I am taking the liberty of cross-posting these two notes again to alt.cyb-sys and also to my mailing list, CYBSYS-L@BINGVMB.BITNET. I'd like to invite anyone interested here to joing us there. Blurb follows. ============================================================================ ANNOUNCING FORMATION OF A MAILING LIST FOR SYSTEMS AND CYBERNETICS An electronic mailing list dedicated to Systems Science and Cybernetics is currently in operation on the SUNY-Binghamton computer system. The list is commited to discussing a general understanding of the evolution of complex, multi-level systems like organisms, minds, and societies as informational entities containing possibly circular processes. Specific subjects include Complex Systems Theory, Self-Organizing Systems Theory, Dynamic Systems Theory, Artificial Intelligence, Network Theory, Semiotics, fractal geometry, Fuzzy Set Theory, Recursive Theory, computer simulation, Information Theory, and more. The purposes of the list include: 1) facilitating discussion among those working in or just interested in the general fields of Systems and Cybernetics; 2) providing a means of communicating to the general research community about the work that Systems Scientists and Cyberneticians do; 3) housing a repository of electronic files for general distribution concerning Systems and Cybernetics; and 4) providing a central, public directory of working Systems Scientists and Cyberneticians. The mailing list can store or transmit notes and messages, technical papers, references, calls for papers, computer programs, and pictures and diagrams. The list is coordinated by members of the Systems Science department of the Watson School at SUNY-Binghamton, and is affiliated with the International Society for the Systems Sciences (ISSS) and the American Society for Cybernetics (ASC). The list is open to everyone, and we currently have two hundred members from America, Canada, and Europe. Our subscribers are from both academia and industry, and while many are active researchers, others are just "listening in". We share in an exciting, ongoing, multi-way conversation about many aspects of Systems and Cybernetics. Different levels and kinds of knowledge and experience are represented. We invite all to join the discussion. To subscribe, you need a computer account with access to one of the international networks (e.g. BITNET, USENET, ARPANET, INTERNET, CSNET). Send a file containing only the line: 'SUB CYBSYS-L Your Full Name' to the list server at the address LISTSERV@BINGVMB.BITNET. Once subscribed, please post a message to the list itself at the address CYBSYS-L@BINGVMB.BITNET. In the message, include your name, affiliation, and a brief description of your work and/or interest in the fields of Systems and Cybernetics. List moderator: CYBSYS@BINGVAXU.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU Author: Cliff Joslyn, CJOSLYN@BINGVAXU.CC.BINGHAMTON.EDU -- O----------------------------------------------------------------------> | Cliff Joslyn, Cybernetician at Large | Systems Science, SUNY Binghamton, cjoslyn@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu V All the world is biscuit shaped. . .