Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!bu-cs!xylogics!world!bzs From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: VLIW Architecture - References, oth Message-ID: <1989Oct17.192955.29370@world.std.com> Date: 17 Oct 89 19:29:55 GMT References: <771301127@8909291517.AA00260@maxwell.ece.c> <130800001@peg> <2109@convex.UUCP> Organization: The World Lines: 36 The correct way to state the "do we need more MIPS?" argument is something like this: 1. There exists a percentage of users who, no matter how fast computers become in the foreseeable future, will need even more speed. 2. There are two factors making the percentage smaller over time, the steady and rapid increase in office and other clerical uses of computers and the increase in speed we are seeing (that is, some users are dropping out of the hunger category simply because they have become sated for the time being.) 3. A good test of whether or not someone is in the first category or not is to ask the question: "Given $X for your computing needs, and no more, for the next year what would you spend it on?" If they say CPU then they're probably in the first category. If they say a faster CPU would be nice but I guess right now I'd have to buy (some neat applications software, more disk, printer, whatever) then they're probably not in the first category, just like to think they are. Many more people are in the "just like to think they are" category than most of us are led to believe. They say that CPUs must get faster but, instead of buying faster CPUs already available, they buy things like nifty laser printers or graphics packages for the same dollars. Granted the shrinking percentage of power-hungry users still control hefty dollars and that's what keeps that section of the industry humming but don't discount the trends. There may well be a point beyond which even folks like DOD can't keep the sheer race for MIPS viable. I/O bandwidth is probably another competing frontier. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die, Purveyors to the Trade 1330 Beacon Street, Brookline, MA 02146, (617) 739-0202