Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!uw-beaver!Teknowledge.COM!polya!Gang-of-Four!andy From: andy@Gang-of-Four.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Trends (was Re: Fed up with MIPS) Message-ID: <12570@polya.Stanford.EDU> Date: 20 Oct 89 21:40:22 GMT References: <76700077@p.cs.uiuc.edu> <318@ssp1.idca.tds.philips.nl> Sender: news@polya.Stanford.EDU Reply-To: andy@Gang-of-Four.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Lines: 30 In article <318@ssp1.idca.tds.philips.nl> roelof@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (R. Vuurboom) writes: [Comparing the PC industry with the auto industry:] >Theres another analogy with the automobile industry and thats the rate >at which new models were introduced...in the seventies the rate of >model introduction was reduced (to me the sign of a mature technology). >This (I assume) will also occur in the computer industry at a "certain >point in time". The 70s trend may have been a reduced introduction rate (and I'm not convinced it was; complete redesign rate may have gone down, but the partial revision rate went up), but the 80s trend has been towards an increased model introduction rate. The Japanese (especially Honda) started this with the every three-year complete revisions, and the US automakers have cut a substantial amount of time out of their redesign cycle. It looks to me like the introduction rate increased in the computer industry in the mid 80s. Some of it was start-up (the MIPS folk got the R3000 out the door fairly quickly after the R2000), but even Intel and Motorola got on the bandwagon. That's why the killer micro attack is working. Cray's cycle time is too long. (I'm talking about Seymour.) It's the old "lots of small improvements" vs "infrequent large changes" problem. Both make lots of progress, but at different times. -andy UUCP: {arpa gateways, sun, decwrl, uunet, rutgers}!polya.stanford.edu!andy ARPA: andy@polya.stanford.edu BELLNET: (415) 723-3088