Path: utzoo!attcan!telly!lethe!torsqnt!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!pdn!larry From: larry@pdn.paradyne.com (Larry Swift) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: What services does X.25 provide? Keywords: x.25, services, login, e-mail, file transfer, IPC Message-ID: <6576@pdn.paradyne.com> Date: 22 Sep 89 14:03:16 GMT References: <796@maxim.erbe.se> <3279@wasatch.utah.edu> <522@wet.UUCP> <1989Sep18.020822.16329@cit5.cit.oz> <727@idacom.UUCP> <17683@bellcore.bellcore.com> Sender: usenet@pdn.paradyne.com Reply-To: larry@pdn.paradyne.com (Larry Swift) Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida Lines: 22 In article <17683@bellcore.bellcore.com> karn@jupiter.bellcore.com (Phil R. Karn) writes: Telenet's network seems to act as though the D-bit were always set. That ... the end-to-end RRs means that the maximum achievable throughput over a single virtual circuit can be abysmal. This results in hacks like "downward multiplexing", where a datagram-based DTE (e.g., the CSNET IP-on-X.25 gateway) opens multiple virtual circuits to the same destination and spreads its datagrams among them. It often takes 4 or 5 parallel virtual circuits to keep a single 9.6kb/s access link busy. ... Face it, X.25 is a disaster for anything other than remote slow speed terminal multiplexing. It is not suitable for serious computer networking. Seems like a quantum leap from an obvious hack to a blanket condemnation of X.25. It would be easy (and obvious?) for a private X.25 network to open the window size to a more optimal value based on number of hops. Larry Swift larry@pdn.paradyne.com AT&T Paradyne, LG-132 Phone: (813) 530-8605 8545 - 126th Avenue, North Largo, FL, 34649-2826 She's old and she's creaky, but she holds!