Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcsun!sunic!tut!jh From: jh@tut.fi (Hein{nen Juha) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: Re: What services does X.25 provide? Message-ID: Date: 20 Oct 89 11:44:37 GMT References: <796@maxim.erbe.se> <3279@wasatch.utah.edu> <522@wet.UUCP> <6624@pdn.paradyne.com> <23189@cos.com> <1989Oct10.210812.13144@agate.berkeley.edu> <17899@bellcore.bellcore.com> <6669@pdn.paradyne.com> <17953@bellcore.bellcore.com> <1989Oct19.212614.15549 Sender: News@tut.fi Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland. Lines: 26 In-reply-to: cliff@violet.berkeley.edu's message of 19 Oct 89 21:26:14 GMT In article <1989Oct19.212614.15549@agate.berkeley.edu> cliff@violet.berkeley.edu (Cliff Frost) writes: I'm told by someone in Finland that the Finnish PTT is offering a service that sounds like a leased line. It may still be X.25 based (maybe not) but instead of paying by the packet they pay by the bandwidth reserved regardless of how many packets they send. Apparently this was in response to demand from TCP/IP (who later plan to be TP4/CLNP) internetworkers there. So, at least one European PTT is giving their users a choice. The backbone of the Finnish PTT service called DATANET is not based on X.25 but on point-to-point links directly connecting Cisco routers (so you don't loose any bandwith). If someone in Finland now wants to join FUNET (Finnish Research and University Network) and from thereon to NORDUnet and Internet, they can simply subscribe to DATANET which has 64Kb line (to be soon upgraded to 2Mb) to our Cisco. So our State PTT very much wants to respond to customer needs and they don't seem to give damm to CCITT/CEPT politics. The reason for this is simple: they don't have monopoly on data services. In most EC countries this is not the case and, as a result, we are widnessing forced pushing of X.25/TP0 technology for both WANs and LANs. -- -- Juha Heinanen, Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland jh@tut.fi (Internet), tut!jh (UUCP), jh@tut (Bitnet)